First one I've seen.

"vondon302" (vondon302) 12/07/2018 at 09:05 • Filed to: None

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I liked it more than I should have. Looks great in person.

shop-teacher > vondon302 12/07/2018 at 09:19

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They are going to sell every single one of these that they can screw together, and the resale value will be BONKERS.

vondon302 > shop-teacher 12/07/2018 at 09:23

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You got that right. I want one now even though I can’t justify it.

Might be a good time to buy some FCA stock.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > vondon302 12/07/2018 at 09:32

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I read a lot of complaints on the internet about the proportions looking off.

Looks fine to me. Or does it look weird only with all the doors off?

404 - User No Longer Available > vondon302 12/07/2018 at 09:47

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Didn’t the regular Wrangler just flunked a crash test  badly? Not really sure if the bed would make things worse.

vondon302 > vondon302 12/07/2018 at 09:53

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“driver assist systems hurt the score”

I'm okay with that besides my DD 2010 crown Vic P71 is far more likely to kill me.

BigBlock440 > 404 - User No Longer Available 12/07/2018 at 09:54

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The European test, mostly for a lack of nannies and pedestrian protections.  It’s not going to be any worse than prior generations.

The Dummy Gummy > vondon302 12/07/2018 at 09:55

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I wish these were $5-10K cheaper. I’d buy it to tow my boat. 

Ash78, voting early and often > BigBlock440 12/07/2018 at 10:06

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Yeah, how many US vehicles (especially trucks) really protect pedestrians well, anyway? Most of the suburban US has virtually zero pedestrians to begin with. And I’m not driving this in downtown Paris.

Paris, Texas.

Censored > The Dummy Gummy 12/07/2018 at 10:09

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Have you seen pricing yet? As far as I have seen or heard, nothing has been released.

Tapas > shop-teacher 12/07/2018 at 10:12

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I don’t know about that.

Those weld issues are no bueno. The new Wrangler got a 1 star on the Euro crash test with good welds. I can’t imagine what would happen with bad ones.....

I’m surprised the NHTSA not IIHS have tested the car in the US yet!

https://www.thecarconnection.com/news/1120327_2018-jeep-wrangler-fails-european-crash-test

nermal > 404 - User No Longer Available 12/07/2018 at 10:29

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They’ve always had crappy crash ratings. N obody cares, they still sell extremely well . The side impact ratings are particularly bad, due to the removable doors.

Source:

https://www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings/vehicle/v/jeep/wrangler-2-door-suv

The Dummy Gummy > Censored 12/07/2018 at 10:31

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The google said expected pricing $30-31k for base; which seems on par with their other four doors. If it was $20-25k I’d be in.

shop-teacher > vondon302 12/07/2018 at 10:36

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There are so many things I want, but can’t justify. Like a Bobcat. I really want a skid steer loader, instead of a measly snow blower.

shop-teacher > Tapas 12/07/2018 at 10:38

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Nobody pays attention to logic when it comes to Jeeps. If any of it was logical, they’d sell may 10k Jeeps a year. Look how many of them never leave the pavement. Regular Wranglers have almost as good resale value as Tacomas. A Wrangler pickup will make people go crazy. They’re going to print money with this thing.

I wouldn’t touch one with a 10' pole myself.

Nothing > vondon302 12/07/2018 at 10:39

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I just bought a 4Runner, I just bought a 4Runner, I just bought a 4Runner...

It does look great.

vondon302 > shop-teacher 12/07/2018 at 11:07

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I’d probably get more use out of that and a wood chipper than this jeep.

shop-teacher > vondon302 12/07/2018 at 11:17

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Yeah, me too.  My neighbor has one of those little compact stand on skid steer loaders.  I am insanely jealous of him.

StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8 > Tapas 12/07/2018 at 11:18

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Meh, the 1 star was pretty much because if you hit a person, they get hurt.  Also, no lane keep assist and auto braking.  The actual crash tests looked pretty good.

HammerheadFistpunch > vondon302 12/07/2018 at 11:18

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Are they one sale yet?

Censored > The Dummy Gummy 12/07/2018 at 11:26

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Keep dreaming. It will not be chea per than a base JLU which start at $ 32k. Think $36 to $38.

vondon302 > HammerheadFistpunch 12/07/2018 at 11:30

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Nope and no word yet on price according to the nice lady driving.

HammerheadFistpunch > vondon302 12/07/2018 at 11:30

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did you catch her name?

Tapas > StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8 12/07/2018 at 11:32

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Oh...I didnt know that.

W ere other crash tests done on the new Jeep Wrangler or Gladiator.

I’d like to see how it did!

vondon302 > HammerheadFistpunch 12/07/2018 at 11:35

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Lol no.

I'm married

HammerheadFistpunch > vondon302 12/07/2018 at 11:35

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no i mean I met a Jeep engineer at a thing a while back.  Very cool lady.  Just wondering if you met the same person I did.

The Dummy Gummy > Censored 12/07/2018 at 11:39

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Was that necessary?

StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8 > Tapas 12/07/2018 at 12:11

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I think so, haven’t seen them though.  

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > shop-teacher 12/07/2018 at 12:18

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Take the 4x4 truck resale add Wrangle resale

Yup they will not depreciate

I do wonder if they’ll actually outsell JLUs. 

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Censored 12/07/2018 at 12:23

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It’s safe to assume they’ll be a good 3k more than the regular 4 door JLU. So base price could be 36k for a Manual Sport. That’s crew cab  half ton money.

vondon302 > HammerheadFistpunch 12/07/2018 at 13:14

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Lol. Well she was very attractive and cool worked for Mopar not a engineer though.

vondon302 > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 12/07/2018 at 13:20

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I’ve seen some pics that looked off but in person I don’t see it. I liked it alot and I was one of those people that was bummed it wasn’t a 2 door.

I shocked myself on how much I liked it.

shop-teacher > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 12/07/2018 at 13:33

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Yeah, if they actually succeed in certifying the diesel with the EPA, you can add diesel resale value. It will be like driving around  cash money.

Censored > The Dummy Gummy 12/07/2018 at 16:00

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???

Censored > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 12/07/2018 at 16:01

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Oh I totally agree, just was questioning if I had missed FCA’s release of pricing info. I’m betting that there is at least a 4k premium. This thing has a ton more steel than the JKU.

theloudmouth > vondon302 12/07/2018 at 22:22

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Completely agree, looks awesome in black (I was driving so ignore the crappy photos).

functionoverfashion > shop-teacher 12/14/2018 at 09:08

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It’s true. A guy I used to work with bought one of the 4-door Wranglers when they were first coming out. He and his kids loved the open-top in the summer. He loved that it was Real Jeep that he could take his family in. Then one day he read about the crash test results of these things, as compared to just about any other mid-sized SUV he could have considered. I kid you not, he traded it in for an xterra within the week. He was a bit impulsive, I might add. But he was like, “once I knew about that I couldn’t keep driving my kids around in it.”

Dude, why didn’t you look into that before buying one? Probably because it was cool. It’s a Jeep, man!

shop-teacher > functionoverfashion 12/14/2018 at 09:53

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Well, kudos to him for acting upon that. That’s why I sold my Roadmaster. Once that rust hole opened in the base of the B-pillar, I could not in good conscience keep driving my kids around in that. (I still regret selling it, should’ve kept it for myself to play with)

There is a weird perception out there, Tom wrote about it on the FP somewhat recently, that because Jeeps are “tough,” that they’re also “safe.” Which, as we know, couldn’t be farther from the truth.